Harry Potter: Lazy Slacker?
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lightofdayeAt the moment I've been listening to Half blood Prince audio book, read by Stephen Fry on my mp3 player and it's very good, aside from poor Stephen having to attempt a variety of different accents and has to go especially far in the case of women. (poor Tonks and Demezla now have very thick accents) I've actually appreciated the story a bit more this time through. Still my favourite chapter is still the very first one with the poor prime minister.
I actually notice more stuff in the audio version. I think I have a terrible habit of skimming when I'm reading a book so I miss details but one of the things I did notice is that Hermione totally gets huffy when people hit on Ron even before he starts smooching on Lavender, never seen that before. I mean Ron acting up is totally obvious but Hermione was more subtle, lol.
But the other thing that seems endemic to the stuff is Harry succeeding purely by taking the easy way out and standing on the back of others work. This is obvious with the Prince's potions book and also when he gets the real potion from Slughorn using lucky potion.
I think I first noticed some of this when listening to the description of Voldemort getting the horcrux information out of Slughorn and Harry realising He must have buttered up /slughorn for ages whereas Harry gets the same effect with no effort at all: just see the luck potion and bam. Job done.
Likewise in potions he gets top marks for following Snape's revised instructions and yet Snape presumably compiled those changes to the net through trial and error and a great deal of work. Chance hands Harry the book and he uses at no effort to himself. (The book does point out that he doesn't understand the concepts involved but he gets through it by nerve and cheek. Admirable qualities we are to assume.)
So we're in the odd position where the villains of the piece apparently rose from humble origins through ingenuity and hard work. And the hero... gets it handed to him by the plot?
The other thing that comes to mind, is Hermione's rejection of the half-blood prince's instruction while adhering strictly to the 'official instructions'. Now its admirable not the crib someone else's work. But on the other hand this leads us the impression that Hermione gets to be 'the smartest witch in her age' by reading alot and slavish following instructions. Apparently that's all that is required not any great originality of though or adaptability or smartness of her own. Just read the books, memorise them and you get to be great. I mean this should stand her well on exam papers but she never seems to have an problem with the practical side either, so again read enough and apparently you cast spells with ease
I seem to have gone a little off track and more stream of consciousness here. Still thoughts?
I actually notice more stuff in the audio version. I think I have a terrible habit of skimming when I'm reading a book so I miss details but one of the things I did notice is that Hermione totally gets huffy when people hit on Ron even before he starts smooching on Lavender, never seen that before. I mean Ron acting up is totally obvious but Hermione was more subtle, lol.
But the other thing that seems endemic to the stuff is Harry succeeding purely by taking the easy way out and standing on the back of others work. This is obvious with the Prince's potions book and also when he gets the real potion from Slughorn using lucky potion.
I think I first noticed some of this when listening to the description of Voldemort getting the horcrux information out of Slughorn and Harry realising He must have buttered up /slughorn for ages whereas Harry gets the same effect with no effort at all: just see the luck potion and bam. Job done.
Likewise in potions he gets top marks for following Snape's revised instructions and yet Snape presumably compiled those changes to the net through trial and error and a great deal of work. Chance hands Harry the book and he uses at no effort to himself. (The book does point out that he doesn't understand the concepts involved but he gets through it by nerve and cheek. Admirable qualities we are to assume.)
So we're in the odd position where the villains of the piece apparently rose from humble origins through ingenuity and hard work. And the hero... gets it handed to him by the plot?
The other thing that comes to mind, is Hermione's rejection of the half-blood prince's instruction while adhering strictly to the 'official instructions'. Now its admirable not the crib someone else's work. But on the other hand this leads us the impression that Hermione gets to be 'the smartest witch in her age' by reading alot and slavish following instructions. Apparently that's all that is required not any great originality of though or adaptability or smartness of her own. Just read the books, memorise them and you get to be great. I mean this should stand her well on exam papers but she never seems to have an problem with the practical side either, so again read enough and apparently you cast spells with ease
I seem to have gone a little off track and more stream of consciousness here. Still thoughts?
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Date: 2013-06-30 11:08 pm (UTC)He always did his work for DADA (except when Umbridge taught).
and to master the Patronus he did have several lessons about it and struggled till he got it right.
and we have read several times in the books about him doing his homework (in PoA during the summer, having to stay up late to finish a drawing of a bowtruckle or something like that)
my two cents.
(I know not everyone likes Harry, and that's fine. But it irks me when people assume he Didn't do ANYTHING ever himself just because he had loads of help in a lot of stuff)
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Date: 2013-06-30 11:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-06-30 11:56 pm (UTC)it was just the way "he literally 'winged' almost everything and gets exalted as a hero" sounded like "he didn't do ANYTHING himself, only got help from others and he doesn't deserve praise"
instead of just "he's so lucky to have survived half the stuff"
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Date: 2013-06-30 11:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-01 12:01 am (UTC)but that's a bit of life too isn't it?
haven't we all heard of those terrible accidents and how this person/house/building,etc got killed/blown up but the person/house/building next to it not a scratch?
plus he's the hero in a child/teen story. of course he was going to make it. (specially with magic involved)
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Date: 2013-07-01 12:07 am (UTC)cause otherwise I don't see How they made it through 7 years of Hogwarts education.
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Date: 2013-07-01 01:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-01 01:25 am (UTC)