Discovery S3 E10 (spoilers)
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lightofdayeWaffled about this one and them mirror universe a bit.
So I have mixed feelings on this one. The Mirror Universe plot line was great. I liked that Mirror!Michael was biding her time and still plotting against Georgiou and I liked that Georgiou was prepared and ready for that.
It's unclear to me how much of Georgiou's more enlightened behaviour is the result of hanging out with the prime verse. And how much she was planning the first time around. Her 'weakness' was presumably still the cause of the rebellion but we don't how much of her better way she was trying the first time around, her dialogue did suggest it was the influence of the prime universe.
She's still pretty ruthless though, it's interesting that she still had plenty of loyalists, and if she'd just been a little more willing to kill Michael the second time, she'd have come through unscathed and still Emperor.
It's a contrast to Mirror!Spock who when trying to reform the Empire to be like the Federation led to it's collapse. (which is sadly kind of bad messaging from DS9 really) Georgiou was still strong enough by MU standards to have maybe managed it in slow fashion.
Of course the meat of this episode was to wrap Georgiou's plotlines up in a neat bow and set her off to her spin-off. Which they did, admirable. The MU part ends surprisingly soon and there was surprising amount of send off at the end. The treating her as dead and giving her a wake thing seemed a little OTT to me.
So Reno's great and all but it seems a waste of a guest star to have her literally turn up just to snark. Her appearances where she at least at something to with Stamets and Culber's stories were better.
I still don't know what to make out of the Admiral, he seems reasonable but his reactions always seems slightly off-kilter to me. I don't know if that's intentional?
Only a few episodes left to deal with the main plot. I wonder if it will cliffhanger or stretch into Season 4? Can't see a resolution at this point.
So I have mixed feelings on this one. The Mirror Universe plot line was great. I liked that Mirror!Michael was biding her time and still plotting against Georgiou and I liked that Georgiou was prepared and ready for that.
It's unclear to me how much of Georgiou's more enlightened behaviour is the result of hanging out with the prime verse. And how much she was planning the first time around. Her 'weakness' was presumably still the cause of the rebellion but we don't how much of her better way she was trying the first time around, her dialogue did suggest it was the influence of the prime universe.
She's still pretty ruthless though, it's interesting that she still had plenty of loyalists, and if she'd just been a little more willing to kill Michael the second time, she'd have come through unscathed and still Emperor.
It's a contrast to Mirror!Spock who when trying to reform the Empire to be like the Federation led to it's collapse. (which is sadly kind of bad messaging from DS9 really) Georgiou was still strong enough by MU standards to have maybe managed it in slow fashion.
Of course the meat of this episode was to wrap Georgiou's plotlines up in a neat bow and set her off to her spin-off. Which they did, admirable. The MU part ends surprisingly soon and there was surprising amount of send off at the end. The treating her as dead and giving her a wake thing seemed a little OTT to me.
So Reno's great and all but it seems a waste of a guest star to have her literally turn up just to snark. Her appearances where she at least at something to with Stamets and Culber's stories were better.
I still don't know what to make out of the Admiral, he seems reasonable but his reactions always seems slightly off-kilter to me. I don't know if that's intentional?
Only a few episodes left to deal with the main plot. I wonder if it will cliffhanger or stretch into Season 4? Can't see a resolution at this point.
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Date: 2020-12-20 01:21 pm (UTC)I wondered the same thing. Reflecting on it, I think the implication is that the potential to be more enlightened and loving was within her all along, and probably came out in subtle ways (the "weakness" that the rebels noticed, and the love that Mirror!Michael couldn't accept), but it was only through her experiences in the Prime universe that she was able to fully actualize and articulate it. To me this makes sense; I think when you've only lived in one cultural milieu where other ways are condemned as completely wrong, it's very difficult to break out of that without first seeing an example to follow, even if you've privately had some doubts.
if she'd just been a little more willing to kill Michael the second time, she'd have come through unscathed and still Emperor.
As I see it, this is the whole point of the episode and the test the Guardian of Forever is giving her. She could have kept the Empire and possibly reformed it, but she's no longer willing to kill her own daughter to accomplish that. If making real change in the MU had seemed obviously hopeless, her choice would have been too easy because there wouldn't have been anything to gain by killing Mirror!Michael.
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Date: 2020-12-23 11:41 am (UTC)I meant to put in the main post but the obvious difference between original and rerun Georgiou would be the latter's appreciation for Saru and gaining of the Kelpians' loyalty.