PoA Thought

Sep. 3rd, 2015 07:16 pm
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So I've been listening to audio book of Prisoner of Azkaban fo the upteemth time and this quote leapt out at me: "you're the cleverest witch of your age I've ever met." - Remus Lupin

It seems to me that that quote gets shrunk down to 'the cleverest witch of the age' a lot. Or at least it seems like a lot in fanfic and I can't remember if gets referred to very often again in canon.

But... that ommission completely changes the meaning to me. With it it means something like 'wow, you're really smart for 14.' without I always read it as 'you're literally the cleverest witch of your generation'

And its not just Hermione, lots of fanfics will refer to Harry by some variant of boy-who-lived, modified to account for his later victories, far more than canon does, or at least so it seems to me.

Not sure what i'm concluding here beyond 'fandom loves nicknames' and 'poor ron: why doesn't he get a moniker?' but I thought you might appreciate my ramblings nevertheless.

Date: 2015-09-03 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com
I try not to use them in my writing just because I can't recall seeing them written in canon. Granted, my OTP is decidedly not canon by any means, but I try to stay within the realm of believability and I just can't see the characters saying 'Mione'. Perhaps 'Weaslette' if they were being incredibly patronizing but beyond that...No. Ugh!

Date: 2015-09-03 07:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] torino10154
Butting in but if Draco says "Weasel", Lavender calls Ron "Won-Won", Lily says "Sev", and Lily even calls Wormtail (which is already Peter's nickname) "Wormy", sadly I think really bad nicknames are canon-ish. Which isn't to say I like them. ROFL Just I think people do have them. Does that make sense?

Oh, also, people have Hermione say "Ronald" far too much. But I do hate Mione unless it's used like ONCE when IDK Ron's in the hospital doped up. LOL

Date: 2015-09-03 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com
I know nicknames are never graceful or dignified and there are some really terrible ones in canon but 'Mione just grates on every single nerve in my body for some reason.

Re: Hermione's use of 'Ronald', I only see it as applicable if she's mad at him for some reason, not as everyday speech. It just sounds far too formal for best friends. When I read her using it, it always plays in my head in the tone of that moment in PoA when she says, 'Ronald has lost his rat'. Can't unhear the tone.

Date: 2015-09-03 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlane.livejournal.com
Butting in (sorry!)... I thought Ron used 'Mione several times in the books?

This is why I write next gen girls. LOL.

Date: 2015-09-03 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlane.livejournal.com
I'm innocent, your honor!

Date: 2015-09-03 07:54 pm (UTC)
torino10154: Harry Potter glasses (SDK_Glasses)
From: [personal profile] torino10154
I looked online (not in the books LOL) and there's nothing on the nickname page at HP_Lexicon and there's also nothing on her Wiki page under "also known as" which has stuff like "Hermy" from Grawp and "Herm-own-ninny" by Viktor.

LMAO I also found this forum discussion from 2005!

The nickname 'Mione for Hermione. It's incredibly widespread, yet no one's ever called her that in canon.

That's even before HBP I think so it would have to be in the last two books if it does exist.

Date: 2015-09-03 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlane.livejournal.com
Shiny! I was too lazy to look it up. ;D

You mentioned Ron being doped up, and maybe that's what I was thinking? When he gets hit by the love potion/poison and calls out for her in the hospital?

'Mione doesn't seem like an unusual shortening of Hermione to me, and Ron's quite lazy that way, but all things in moderation, no?

Date: 2015-09-03 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com
I love reading Lily Luna with Scorpius or the older male Slytherins. I'm a perv... >.>

Date: 2015-09-03 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlane.livejournal.com
Oh lord, if that makes you pervy, there's no hope for me. LMAO!!!

Date: 2015-09-03 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com
Haha, Vindication!

I like when the teenage girls seduce older men. It feels skeevy when it's the other way round.

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